{"id":58710,"date":"2010-02-26T09:09:01","date_gmt":"2010-02-26T08:09:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/?p=58710"},"modified":"2020-11-04T09:40:01","modified_gmt":"2020-11-04T08:40:01","slug":"ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/fr\/2010\/02\/26\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\/","title":{"rendered":"Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>C&rsquo;est entendu, \u00ab\u00a0les march\u00e9s sont des conversations\u00a0\u00bb [traduction litt\u00e9rale horrible, je pr\u00e9f\u00e9rerais un truc du genre \u00ab\u00a0les march\u00e9s sont la somme des \u00e9changes entre consommateurs\u00a0\u00bb] mais continuez quand m\u00eame \u00e0 lire &#8230; Combien de fois ai-je entendu des consultants ouvrir leurs pr\u00e9sentations avec la citation sentencieuse du Cluetrain Manifesto de 1999 pour justifier la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de prendre le train (c&rsquo;est le cas de le dire) en marche des <a href=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/fr\/2018\/05\/optimiser-strategie-medias-sociaux\/\">m\u00e9dias sociaux<\/a> : \u00ab\u00a0Les march\u00e9s sont des conversations\u00a0\u00bb ; CQFD (ou du moins c&rsquo;est ce qu&rsquo;ils pensent).<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux<\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_58706\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-58706\" style=\"width: 520px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-58706 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/jumpstory-download20201104-075855.jpg\" alt=\"Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux\" width=\"520\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/jumpstory-download20201104-075855.jpg 520w, https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/jumpstory-download20201104-075855-459x300.jpg 459w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-58706\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1115\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1115\" style=\"width: 188px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1115\" src=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/cluetrainarmadillo.gif\" alt=\"the manifesto's trademark armadillo picture\" width=\"188\" height=\"258\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1115\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">the manifesto&rsquo;s trademark armadillo picture<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>J&rsquo;admire depuis longtemps le <a title=\"Cluetrain Manifesto\" href=\"https:\/\/cluetrain.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">manifeste<\/a> (si l&rsquo;on excepte sa traduction en javanais pseudo-fran\u00e7ais qui est cens\u00e9e lui donner un ton\u00a0<em>international<\/em>). Le livre est compos\u00e9 de <strong>95 th\u00e8ses<\/strong> (pas seulement une) comme celle cit\u00e9e ci-dessus. Dans cet article, je ne prendrai que <strong>cinq d&rsquo;entre elles<\/strong> que je pense \u00eatre les plus importantes et dont il faut se souvenir ; au moins autant que la devise obligatoire de la \u00ab\u00a0conversation\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Th\u00e8se n\u00b03 : \u00ab\u00a0les conversations entre les \u00eatres humains doivent \u00eatre humaines. Elles sont men\u00e9es humainement\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dans le langage des m\u00e9dias sociaux, cela signifie que vous devez avoir de vraies personnes et une interaction r\u00e9elle &#8211; y compris en coulisses &#8211; lorsque des discussions sont d\u00e9clench\u00e9es dans des outils comme Twitter par exemple. Les r\u00e9ponses automatis\u00e9es ne suffisent pas.<\/p>\n<p>T<strong>h\u00e8se #7 : \u00ab\u00a0les hyperliens subvertissent la hi\u00e9rarchie\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cela ne signifie pas que votre patron va recevoir sa lettre de licenciement. Cela veut dire que les sites web sont g\u00e9r\u00e9s par des liens, et non par des menus, et qu&rsquo;ils ne sont pas con\u00e7us comme des logiciels. Malheureusement, je n&rsquo;ai pas constat\u00e9 de progr\u00e8s dans ce sens. Trop de discussions &#8211; pour ne pas dire de querelles &#8211; dans les entreprises sont d\u00e9clench\u00e9es par la position relative d&rsquo;un menu au sein d&rsquo;une page d&rsquo;accueil. Il s&rsquo;agit l\u00e0 d&rsquo;un malentendu fondamental sur le fonctionnement du Web et sur la mani\u00e8re dont le r\u00e9f\u00e9rencement est effectu\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thesis #24 : \u00ab\u00a0les incantations pr\u00e9tentieuses\u00a0\u00bb du style \u00ab\u00a0nous sommes le leader des fournisseurs de XYZ\u00a0\u00bb-ne constituent pas une proposition de valeur<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Dans le jargon des m\u00e9dias sociaux, ce qui compte, c&rsquo;est la franchise, la v\u00e9rit\u00e9, l&rsquo;honn\u00eatet\u00e9, la transparence, de vraies informations provenant de vraies personnes, et non des discours pr\u00e9format\u00e9s dans la novlangue des institutionnels.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Th\u00e8se n\u00b026 : Les relations publiques ne sont pas faites pour le public. Les entreprises ont une peur profonde de leurs march\u00e9s.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Comme l&rsquo;indique notre pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent article sur <a href=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/fr\/2010\/02\/paul-argenti-les-medias-sociaux-revolutionnent-la-communication-dentreprise\/\">le dernier opus de Paul Argenti sur le th\u00e8me de la communication d&rsquo;entreprise<\/a>, les RP doivent se r\u00e9inventer et redevenir humaines. Ce n&rsquo;est pas aussi \u00e9vident qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y para\u00eet quand on se trouve pour ainsi dire derri\u00e8re le pare-feu de l&rsquo;entreprise.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thesis #66 : Nous voulons avoir acc\u00e8s aux informations de votre entreprise, \u00e0 vos plans et vo sstrat\u00e9gies, \u00e0 vos meilleures id\u00e9es, vos v\u00e9ritables connaissances. Nous ne nous contenterons pas de la brochure en quadrichromie, des sites web de graphistes tape \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u0153il qui manquent de substance. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Les clients, les \u00e9cosyst\u00e8mes, les visiteurs en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral veulent des informations, et ils veulent des informations qui leur soient utiles, pas des brochures d&rsquo;entreprise qui ne veulent rien dire. lorsque je vois la plupart des sites web institutionnels 16 ans apr\u00e8s le lancement des premiers, je me rends compte du peu de progr\u00e8s que nous avons fait dans cette direction. c&rsquo;est aussi parce que les sites web institutionnels sont devenus la nouvelle pomme de discorde entre les entit\u00e9s, le territoire \u00e0 conqu\u00e9rir pour toutes les unit\u00e9s commerciales et que la plupart du temps, les employ\u00e9s perdent de vue ce qui pourrait int\u00e9resser les visiteurs. En fin de compte, c&rsquo;est aussi ce qui rend les blogs plus faciles \u00e0 g\u00e9rer que les sites Web d&rsquo;entreprise, car les blogs sont de v\u00e9ritables opinions \u00e9mises par de vraies personnes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>liens et autres lectures <\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Le Cluetrain manifesto <a title=\"http:\/\/cluetrain.com\" href=\"https:\/\/cluetrain.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/cluetrain.com<\/a>,<\/li>\n<li>the <a title=\"10 year anniversary edition of the cluetrain manifesto\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0465018653\/ref=nosim\/entropygradientr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">10-year anniversary version of the book which you can buy from Amazon,<\/a><\/li>\n<li>a <a title=\"Cluetrain on Boingboing\" href=\"https:\/\/boingboing.net\/2010\/01\/15\/cluetrain-manifesto.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">revue de la version du Manifeste du Cluetrain pour les 10 ans \u00e0 venir qui se trouve sur BoingBoing<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>C&rsquo;est entendu, \u00ab\u00a0les march\u00e9s sont des conversations\u00a0\u00bb [traduction litt\u00e9rale horrible, je pr\u00e9f\u00e9rerais un truc du genre \u00ab\u00a0les march\u00e9s sont la somme des \u00e9changes entre consommateurs\u00a0\u00bb] mais continuez quand m\u00eame \u00e0 lire &#8230; Combien de fois ai-je entendu des consultants ouvrir leurs pr\u00e9sentations avec la citation sentencieuse du Cluetrain Manifesto de 1999 pour justifier la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":58706,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-58710","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-marketing-innovation-fr","category-medias-sociaux"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Combien de fois ai-je entendu des consultants proclamer la citation sentencieuse du Cluetrain Manifesto de 1999 pour justifier n&#039;importe quoi\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/fr\/2010\/02\/26\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Combien de fois ai-je entendu des consultants proclamer la citation sentencieuse du Cluetrain Manifesto de 1999 pour justifier n&#039;importe quoi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/fr\/2010\/02\/26\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Marketing and Innovation\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/vismktg\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:author\" content=\"http:\/\/facebook.com\/ygourven\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2010-02-26T08:09:01+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2020-11-04T08:40:01+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/visionarymarketing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/jumpstory-download20201104-075855.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"520\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"340\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Yann Gourvennec\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@ygourven\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@ygourven\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"\u00c9crit par\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Yann Gourvennec\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Dur\u00e9e de lecture estim\u00e9e\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"NewsArticle\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/visionarymarketing.com\\\/fr\\\/2010\\\/02\\\/26\\\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/visionarymarketing.com\\\/fr\\\/2010\\\/02\\\/26\\\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Yann Gourvennec\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/visionarymarketing.com\\\/fr\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/3754fee1e558f47b8deb46f53c37423e\"},\"headline\":\"Ce que le Cluetrain Manifesto nous apprend sur les m\u00e9dias sociaux\",\"datePublished\":\"2010-02-26T08:09:01+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2020-11-04T08:40:01+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/visionarymarketing.com\\\/fr\\\/2010\\\/02\\\/26\\\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":792,\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/visionarymarketing.com\\\/fr\\\/2010\\\/02\\\/26\\\/ce-que-le-cluetrain-manifesto-nous-apprend-sur-les-medias-sociaux\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/visionarymarketing.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2010\\\/02\\\/jumpstory-download20201104-075855.jpg\",\"articleSection\":[\"Marketing &amp; 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